国外玩家对国服盒谐的讨论:正反不一

[挑战编辑部] [已跟帖条]2009-08-06 2009-8-6 10:41:30 作者: 来源:

  总的来说,老美有支持有反对。支持的大多认为是文化差异,反对的理由自然就不用说了,和我们差不多。在讨论过程中,甚至扯出了宗教问题……


  先提前放出一句发人深省的话,这个是蛮后面的一个网友说的。

  When the state is deciding what cultural mores you will honor instead of letting citizens decide for themselves, that is censorship and it is unfortunate.

  当一个国家自己来设定一种文化环境而不是由人民自身去选择的话,这就是那种不幸的审查制度了(羽落风铃(2140870)友情翻译)

  —— Sleutel(某个美国网友)

  惯例,先放个传送门

  [http://www.wow.com/2009/07/30/wow-china-hit-with-more-censorship-upon-relaunch/#comments]

  Why is respecting Chinese laws unfortunate?

  ——nih(这位仁兄是认为中国的法律要求如此,而这个观点也是大多不明真相的美国玩家的看法,毕竟美国是个法治社会……不过貌似我几个律师朋友说从来没有一条法律禁止画面中出现骨头之类的东西)

  "It's always unfortunate when this sort of censorship happens, it's really not something you "

  当这种审查制度出现总归是不幸的,当然对你来说这什么都不是

  I'd not use the word unfortunate either for this fine example of state censorship, probably "pathetic" or "laughable" describes it well.

  对我来说,我想我不会用“不幸”这个词来形容中国相关部门的审查,我觉得用“可悲”或者“可笑”来形容可能更加合适。

  As for respecting Chinese laws, I've got to wonder how many people are unable to look at a pile of bones, I mean we all gut a chicken now and then so I doubt many people in China are going to be surprised that Humans have bones too :P

  考虑到中国相关法律,我很想知道多少人会对不能看到骨头感到很不舒服。我的意思是说我怀疑中国的玩家会很惊讶的了解到原来人体是没骨头的。

  ——Gareth(老美果然是三步不离法律)

  Without seeming like I'm trolling, the equivalent imagery in the western world would be a Cleveland Steamer on Christ on the Cross.这不是我煽风点火,其实这种环境就像类似于在西方世界你随便把十字架上的耶稣到处乱挂一样。

  These items aren't being changed because people are 'scared'. 这些东西的改变并非是因为人民会害怕骨头啥的。(这句话很有道理,其实我们并不会害怕骨头,也不会因为看到骨头就会受到毒害,只是某些高层觉得这样不好,所以会改)

  Nobody is being harmed by respecting another country's laws in this regard, so your outrage is purely self-involved narcissistic rage.)在尊重别国法律的过程中,没人会受到伤害,所以你的愤怒其实也就自虐,没事找事。

  ——nit(开场这两位仁兄就掐起来了)

  Humans no have bones! Government say so! l人类确实是没骨头的!因为政府说没有!

  ——Nathanye

  (调侃了下,算是支持咱们的Gareth)

  By that line of reasoning, "Women no have boobs! American government say so!"由此可证,MM是没有沟沟的,美国政府说了!

  Take The Witcher for example, an european RPG.拿The Withcer做例子,这是个欧洲RPG游戏

  In the original version there are naked women in the game.原始版本,游戏里面有裸女的

  The American version had them censored because it clashes with the morals the powers that be would like all americans to have.但是美国版让它检查并火炉,因为这东东和咱们美国人的道德风格相冲突。(恩恩,宣扬了黄色思想,这个是可以理解的)

  Does that make the American government evil for applying censorship to a bunch of boobies? No really, no, it's just a different mentality.那次审查裸女身体的并造成改变让咱们美国政府变邪恶了?Accept that different cultures think differently.没吧,这也就是在接受不同文化的不同想法和心态

  ——Tiago(在合理的审查修改上,老美的态度还是表示了支持)

  "Without seeming like I'm trolling.."这也不是我在煽风点火

  Don't vote him down, he's perfectly correct。别给nit说的话投down,这个是很正确的。

  ——Pyratus(nit有了第二位支持者,我们可怜的Gareth,难道美国童鞋的眼睛都给蒙蔽了么?!!)

  It's not what they do, but why they do it.重要的不是他们做了什么,而是为什么要这样做。(开始理性的思考)

  Not that I want to defend the "no boobies" policy in the US, but this "at least" is caused by religion, where people have a strong opinion about certain stuff.首先我肯定要赞同在美国不能有裸女的审查,因为在美国咱们美国人对于这个东西是有基本一致的看法的。(解释下,在美国许多宗教都是和清教保持一贯的态度,对于色情场面是绝对禁止的)

  On the other hand, I have not heard one single reason for not showing bones on Undead etc. except "the government/censorship agency doesn't like it".当然,我从来没听说过任何一个理由关于不能够让不死族的骨头长在身体上,除非是政府或审查制度不喜欢

  Unless many Chinese really dislike bones, this is like the USA authorities censoring each and every bit of "sexy" media, even if the common US-American was a open-minded and tolerant individual.除非许多中国人不喜欢骨头,这才能等于同于美国政府那次审查每个“性”方面的媒体,哪怕美国是很个开放的国家也必须如此。(美国有专门的成人媒体,而这种信息是不允许在一般媒体上播出的)

  Oh and don't think us European think we or our authorities are better, at least in Germany "violence" is your "boobies".

  哦当然别说咱们欧洲银会觉得我们的当局更好,至少在德国“暴力”就是你的那两个大咪咪。

  ——Nathanyel(这位欧洲童鞋尖锐滴指出,色情和wow的骨头是不能对等的,这是在偷换概念。LOL支持咱们Gareht的勇士终于出现了!)

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